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The tables are turned on kidnapper Ruckus as damsel in distress Cherie DeVille breaks free from her bonds! Cherie tells Ruckus she'll pay him directly, but first they have to fake her second abduction so Ruckus won't get in any hot water with his boss. To really sell this story, Cherie knows she'll have to rough Ruckus up real good. She ties him up, clamps his nipples, gags him with rope, and breaks out some implements to get down to business. She starts flogging him, but the flogger just isn't leaving impressive enough marks so she uses a leather slapper and a cane to really get his skin nice and red. Ruckus cries out in pain, rethinking this plan, but it's too late now. He's already at the mercy of Cherie DeVille and his cock is leaking pre-cum as Cherie gets at every exposed piece of skin. The next step in an good abduction, as Cherie knows, is wrecking the victim -- sexually. Cherie straps on a long fat hard cock and stretches Ruckus' ass open. She fucks him, jerks his cock, and punches his chest until he admits he's a slut for her dick and begs to cum. Ruckus is so desperate, but no one cums before Cherie! She rides his face voraciously while cropping his body and Ruckus struggles to breathe while pleasing his captor. Unsatisfied with his oral skills, Cherie turns her attention to his hard cock. She rides it to multiple orgasms as Ruckus quivers beneath her before making him beg to cum. She teases his cock and pushes a vibrator into his balls. She finally lets him blow his load and wipes it off with her stocking-clad feet before making him lick her stockings clean.

Patient Gummisau gets the nasty double encore and both "nurses" are not stingy with their sadism. The suffering, especially of his "inputs", is self-evident. Enthralled by the outside world in his rubber prison, the poor patient has no choice but to enjoy the therapy to the bitter end.

Casey is a bondage girl first and a porn star second. Her life is full of real BDSM, and for the first time ever, we get to show you how hardcore she really is. It took years of planning to get to shoot a a scene like this with such brutal torment. Casey can't show up to a shoot with her body marked up, so it took a little time to get to this point where she could take enough time off to do such an extreme shoot like this one. She begins in a standing position as The Pope enters and begins the process. He takes this time with her, and is careful not to rush this moment. Casey is warmed up with some flogging, and as the scene goes on, the flogging becomes more and more brutal. The floggers are put down and then the punching starts. Casey's faces shows a little smile as the pain overcomes her. Soon she is blindfolded and then the cane shows up. Casey is in her happy place, and only getting deeper into subspace as The Pope issues more brutality. The cane strikes against her pussy mound and suddenly we see Casey beg to cum. She is a true pain slut and today you will see more orgasms from pain than you ever have before...from any model, anywhere. As brutal as this is, it becomes a very sensual exchange between to hardcore BDSM players, and this is only the first scene. Next Casey is on her back with her legs and arms spread away from her body. Every part is exposed and The Pope is going to manipulate every inch of her flesh. After her body is covered in bright red welts from the crop, her hands are bound and tormented as well. He is diligent about keeping her present during this and releases her hands as to not distract her from the other diabolical things he is going to do to her. The squirting begins as he finger bangs her pussy, and doesn't stop until he decides that it should. The final scene begins with Casey in one of the most brutal positions in the history of Device Bondage. She is pinned in a brutal strappado against the wooden column with her head pushed down and the back of her neck against the column as well. Her as sticks out like the perfect target, so he spanks and paddles it until he decides that it is time to make her cum one last time.

Being made to beg forgiveness with a throat full of his Mistress's strap-on didn't awaken this slave into realising the seriousness of his inadequacy. Mistress Eleise decides it's time to get rough and starts with a brutal fucking of his virgin ass and yet more cruel and vicious tongue lashings.

It's no secret that The Pope loves the alt girls, but this time he has the queen of alt girls, Joanna Angel. She made her Kink.com debut recently as a top, but this time, and for the first time EVER, she submits to The Pope. This is a rite of passage for her, and to do this solidifies that she is as much of a badass as we knew she was. The first scene begins with Joanna tied in a sitting position with her legs spread wide and her arms pulled away from her. Her neck is also tied up, to ensure she is totally helpless. The Pope enters and you see her face begin to smile. All of the waiting, all of the anticipation has led up to this very moment for her. She is a good girl, and wants to prove it to him, so she is willing to do whatever it takes to please him. The Pope takes his time with her to ensure her time is well spent. He is willing to help her explore this side of her sexuality, which is a side that has never been explored until now. She is eventually blindfolded to enhance her experience, and to guarantee her the maximum stimulation form the scene. The orgasms begin, and she is overwhelmed by how hard she is cumming. The next scene begins with Joanna in a brutal suspension. The Pope told her that she would get the same treatment as a seasoned bondage slut, but only with more guidance. Her tits are covered with clothespins to bring even more discomfort to her as she hangs helplessly in the air. After more flogging, The Pope fucks her mouth and then her pussy to overwhelm her even more. She is fingered until her pussy gives up multiple squirting orgasms. In the final scene Joanna is on he back like a good slut with her legs spread nice and wide. Her pussy gets more from the flogger and then the cane is brought in to administer some bastinado. It doesn't take long for her to realize that that is a pain she never needs to experience again. To prove to he that there is more than one way to suffer, The Pope breaks out his infamous knitting needle and shows her pain that she never knew existed. He moves on to electrical play and then the final orgasms of the day. By the time that he has finished with her the entire dungeon is soaked in her sweet squirt.

There you are on all fours waiting to take your Mistress Gia's pain, but she knows what you really want and she's going to make you work for it. You're gonna have to earn every inch of your Mistress' thick, long cock. She gives her human fucktoy some spankings and traces its flesh with a riding crop. She knows your ass is in the air, eager to feel the tip of her cock sliding in and out of your useless hole. But you have to watch as she toys with her obedient piece of flesh with her thick dick hanging between her gorgeous legs. Her fucktoy has earned the privilege of being in her presence and for now all you get to do is watch. She pulls her perfect tits out to show you more of what you're missing. She gives her slave some more spankings and it takes it so well, because it knows its gonna get her cock deep inside of its ass. It just stays there, like a still piece of meat just how she likes it, while she slowly slides her dick deep inside of her toy. Are you imagining that it's you who's getting their ass filled up? Her piece of meat can take this thick cock, every single inch of it. Are you stroking your cock now? Imagining instead that its your ass getting fucked? Go ahead and stroke your teeny, tiny little thing that you have there and wish that someday you can please her enough to get fucked by her big, hard cock. She's watching your little cock getting harder and harder. You can stroke it but don't even think about cumming. You get to watch as her obedient piece of meat takes her dick, as its hungry ass swallows that big, fucking cock. Your cock is throbbing, dripping, ready to explode as you jerk off wishing you were getting pounded by this Mistress. Get a good look at her ass in the strap-on harness bouncing up and down while she fucks her toy. Don't fucking cum, you better hold it. That's right, not until she tells you to.

Mistress Eleise's slaveboy has not been performing his domestic chores to her satisfaction. He needs to be taught a lesson and his re-education starts with him hogtied on the kitchen worktop, in readiness for some extreme humiliation training with a large strap-on. The Mistress's verbal humiliation is extreme and his physical humiliation ends in this session with him being covered in her piss.

Welcome to the Divine Bitches Reformatory for Wayward Men. The stunning Chanel Preston is the head of this house and is responsible for administering a uniquely unorthodox treatment for the men here. Dressed in her medical lab coat, black stockings and tight black dress, she puts black gloves on her hands before approaching her patient Rick Fantana. Rick is a pervert. No two ways around this, he has been in treatment for over a year and is not showing any signs of improvement. Chanel knows it's time for the next phase, PAIN. Rick Fantana the pervert deserves pain and punishment. Fully restrained with leather straps and an open mouth spider gag, Chanel starts right away. Electric zapper right to the dick. Caning on all of Rick's sensitive areas. Clamps all over his skin and nipples. Rick screams in pain. Chanel knows the only way this loser man will learn is if she mixes a little bit of pleasure. Rick's cock gets hard and dripping wet with precum but he is not allowed to cum. Edged over and over again by Chanel, this man wimpers with regret of his past life. Phase two is the most effective. Chanel straps on a huge cock and fucks Rick's sad hole. This pervert gets off on it and is rock hard again. After the anal pounding, it's time for Rick to learn how to pleasure a woman. Rick is made to perform cunnilingus on Chanel before she flips him over and uses his pathetic dick for an epic orgasm. Finally Rick must hold his cum, edged over and over again. But, this loser loses it and is made to eat his own cum.

Savannah Fox has ass for days that shakes so much she's earned the name "Queen Quakes". She has a unique fighting style that is hard for a lot of her opponents to figure out and it has won her several matches outside of "Evolved Fights". Today we will find out if those moves will work on an experienced male wrestler. Shawn Fox is Here with an impressive background in wrestling. He's never gone fully competitive against a female before in a sex fight. Today he is taking on his wife. That's right. Shawn and Savanna Foxx are a real-life couple and today on the mats is couples therapy. All the rage and anger they have for each other for leaving the toilet seat up or not doing the dishes is going to come out on the mats for our viewing pleasure. This match is back and forth action. Shawn is able to control Savannah for a bit and ALMOST penetrate her during the wrestling. However, is poor conditioning hinders a lot of his trademark moves. It seems as though his wife has just a tad better physical conditioning over him but he has a ton of muscle strength and weight over her. This match is a lot of fun to watch from start to finish with great sweeps, transitions, submissions, pins and mean holds. It's great to see the power struggle between each of these combatants. Each one gets a dominant position and is able to hold down and molest his or her opponent. Only one can win and after 3 round of hard-fought sex fighting a winner is determined by the judges watching. The winner makes the loser grobble for sex. The loser is made to beg to have orgasms. The loser worships the winner's muscles and is made to lick the sweat from the winner's armpits in such humiliating fashion. The loser gets fucked in the ass just like all losers should be fucked.

Penny starts her day perched atop a custom device that was built to ensure she is helpless. Her legs and arms are spread out and all of her weight is resting on her pussy. The Pope enters and brings with him a dental device that will hold Penny's lips apart, which will impair her ability to speak. The humiliation starts as soon as it is applied to her face. She tries her best, but she cannot help but laugh at herself because of the way she speaks with it in her mouth. Penny's flesh falls under a full assault from a heavy leather flogger. Her tits, her ass, and everything else that he can reach is turned a bright red as the flogger flies through the air. Clothespins are applied to all of the sensitive areas as Penny helplessly watches. The orgasm reward starts and the humiliation ensues. All she has to do is just say, "pretty please". Next Penny is in a back bend and held in place with hard steel. She balances on her head as The Pope enters and adds twine lassos to her nipples, then hangs weight on the me. The flogging starts back up, only to lead to a crop used too. Suddenly, we find out that Penny is extremely ticklish, so he exploits that weakness the way he does all of the rest of them. He rips multiple orgasms from her pussy, and in a huge turn of events, he goes back to cropping her pussy into a "pain-gasm". The final scene begins and Penny is in a doggy position with her arms pulled back into a strappado. Her neck is chained to the floor, and after some more cropping, The Pope sets his sights on making her orgasm more than she has all day. Her pussy is filled up with a massive dildo, and the vibe is pressed firmly against her clit. He rotates between her pussy and mouth in a brutal frenzy of fucking. In the end, we have our Penny back and that's really all that matters.

With the threat of having his leash permanently taken away, the slave has to do some serious grovelling and take some heavy punishment from his beautiful Mistress. A truly impressive display of corporal punishment at the hands of a supreme expert, not to be missed!

Testing the full range of CP implements on the slave's backside is not enough for Mistress Eleise; she wants to test him with some hand tawsing. There are no safewords here. It is an agonising, but ultimately rewarding experience for her slave and a session not to be missed for any enthusiasts of FemDom.

Abella is back and looking fan-fucking-tastic! She showed up at the young age of 19 and has taken Kink by storm. She is a true pain slut that loves to serve her master, and suffer however he sees fit. The Pope holds a special place in her heart and is her go to for true suffering. She knows that he won't put up with her bratty ways, and will quickly put her in her place. We begin with her there, on the floor where she belongs. She is is in a spread eagle, but all of her limbs are pulled to one point. This is a modern day quartering predicament, that will test her strength, both mentally and physically. Her clothes are cut and ripped away from her body to expose her amazing naked body. The Pope begins flogging her pussy in a fury of sadistic punishment. He toys with her, but continues to flog her all over, and slowly tightening the ropes that are pulling her in every direction. Multiple orgasms are ripped from her pussy before moving on to the next position. Now we have Abella upside down in a brutal inverted suspension with her legs spread wide. The flogger is brought back out and a full assault on her flesh begins. He administers some breath play before adding a vibe to begin the process of non stop orgasms. We get to see her begin to twilight with the breath play, but The Pope always brings her right back with a few slaps to her face. The orgasms pour out of this slut and then we move on to the final scene. Abella is in a four point hogtie, but all of her limbs are tied up to a point. Throughout the scene The Pope pulls a little more on the ropes, pulling her into a more severe hogtie. This time he enters carrying a cane and with that he administers bastinado and swift strikes to her ass as well. He begins to make her orgasms against her will, and it eventually gets to her. She struggles to get away and turns herself in the bondage to now face up. The Pope quickly grabs her, wraps his hand around her face and continues to make her cum.

When Miss Velour returns home from a hard day's work she finds her partner with his pants down, masturbating to porn on the internet. Intrigued by what he's wanking to, she decides that if he likes jerking off to BDSM porn so much, she'll inflict some BDSM training on him for real. She makes him worship her from head to toe before allowing him anywhere near her pussy and ends his first session with a refreshing bath of her very special champagne, in his mouth and over his cock while she makes him masturbate.

DJ, like every other man, is a pig and drain on society. Women are fed up with this bullshit. DJ has been stressed out ever since women have been telling their story. His fragile male ego is crushed and is seeking professional help. The stunning Dr. Gia DiMarco has the perfect unconventional therapy for this loser. She blindfolds DJ and bounds his hand in rope. Unable to move, she unleashes physical pain and emotional humiliation on this man. He must repent for his sins, he must learn to respect and worship women, and she is ready to beat that mantra into him. She rips his clothes off, slaps his chest and torments his nipples. His filthy man tongue needs to be taught a lesson and she binds it with clothespins before beating on it with a cane. This filthy loser is getting hard through the treatment and still can't control his male urges so she pulls out his dick and bits on it. She ties up his cock and balls and torments them before putting on a big strap-on to teach DJ the next lesson. What it feels like to be vulnerable and humiliated. Deep anal strap on fucking gets DJ screaming and Gia turned on with excitement of a man in pain. She pulls out a Hitachi and squirts all over this pathetic man. Finally DJ must learn to worship a woman and must learn that woman come first. She shoves her perfect feet into DJ's mouth to gag on. He is made to worship her arches. Finally the true test, can DJ withstand his prostate being milked, while his cock is stroked and edged by a beautiful woman. Will he be able to resist his male urges before shooting his load?

Charlotte is finally back on Device Bondage! We did one of her first shoots ever, and she has always cherished what happened between her and The Pope. She has made quite a name for herself in the adult industry, but always comes back to what she is most passionate about. BDSM is a huge part of who she is and she never wants to change that. We begin with her kneeling and elevated, made to lean back, and shackled. She is vulnerable and very aware of her circumstance. The Pope enters and starts his assault on her flesh with double floggers. Every possible inch is turned a bright red from the grueling punishment she has to endure. He begins with the front, moves to the back, and then revisits the front even more. Next a crop is introduced and her pussy is beaten hellishly with it before she is made to cum uncontrollably. Next she is restrained in a brutal steel device that has her in a doggy position. There is a lot of her body that is exposed , but his focus is on her sensitive soles. This is going to be the most brutal bastinado that she has ever had to endure. The intensity pushes her to a breaking point, but that just excites him, and he continues to brutalize her feet. Once he decides that she has had enough, he moves on to reward her by fucking her little pussy and vibe her into extreme orgasms. He goes between fucking her throat and pussy, and then back again. She is used like the good little whore that she is. Charlotte is now on her back with her legs up and spread, and held there with leather straps. The cane is his chosen tool as he revisits her feet for more punishment. Charlotte is not a fan of the cattle prod, but gets super turned on by it being an implement to threaten her with. Just the thought of it scares the fuck out of her, so The Pope makes sure to use it to his advantage. He toys with her a little more before he finishes her off with more orgasms.

The incredibly seductive Goddess Dommelia returns with a foot, facesitting and milking session you do not want to miss! First she teases her slave with stocking'd feet, making him lick her shoes spotlessly clean, then smothers his face with her fragrant feet. It's not long before all his senses are intoxicated with desire. He would do anything for her at this point, but when she sits firmly over his face and starts to milk him with her vibrating wand, he is overcome with euphoria that leads to an inevitably weak and seedless slave!

Lucky slave number thirteen gets some personal treatment at the skilled hands of Mistress Athena. He simply can't get enough of his very special Mistress and will endure anything to please her and that includes swallowing her ash, her spit and making his face useful as a cushion for her perfect posterior.

It should be the best night of your life; you've married the girl of your dreams.. She's incredibly beautiful! The hottest girl you've ever met! It was because of that, you decided against your horny nature and felt it would be best to honor her wishes and wait until marriage to have sex with her.The wedding night has finally arrived and your cock is ready to explode! You can't wait to fuck yhour new big tit bombshell wife! She blindfolds you, pushes you down onto the couch and starts to suck your raging hard dick.. That's when things start to go wrong. Instead of letting you blast your load into her soft mouth, big tits, wet pussy, or soft hands.. Luna starts to play games with you. She brings you to the edge of cumming and then destroys your orgasms! Your balls are so blue you are squirming with the agony of unrelease. On top of that she says the only way she will let you cumis if she can bring over her ex-boyfriend and let him fuck her in front of you! Your wedding bliss has turned into hell!

What's the best thing about getting fucked by a machine. They don't tire, EVER. Sicilia's whole body shock with ecstasy as the machine penetrated her pussy, deeper and deeper with each stroke. She moaned deeply, as her Masters flogger landed on her flesh. Her breathing quickly becomes ragged as one orgasm after the other rockets through her body. This truly is an amazing day.

Mistress Carly returns home from a night on the town with a guy she's only just met. Her cuckolded husband is made to watch as she seduces her new man and uses him for her sexual pleasure. Her husband is ordered to worship her boots, is spat at and humiliated the entire time. That's as close as he'll ever get to sex with his wife from now on.

How Jade loved to be disciplined. How she wanted to be dominated by him. You see Jade loved older men. She loved how vulnerable she felt around them, especially Master Blackthorne. To be tied up, unable to move, legs spread wide, even the thought made her pussy wet with anticipation.

A kiss on the most perfect posterior does not come easy! Mistress Lola demands that her slave earn the great privilege by pampering her every desire. She wants her shoes licked and cleaned, her stocking clad feet worshipped and her toes sucked and kissed, all after a long hot and sweaty day at work.

Next on List of the sadistic Visionsfrom Lady Estelle is his butt hole. You can imagine what size the Strapon have and what comes at the end!

Mistress Jenna loves to fuck her slaves from behind and in this scene wears nothing but leather thigh boots with her strap-on cock. She makes the slave to lick and suck the strap-on first, before she bends him over the fucking bench and hand spanks his ass hard. She wants his ass good and red before she fucks him, so she brings out the cane to compliment the redness from his spanking. Suitably punished, it's then time for the slave to get pegged, whilst she makes him tell her what he really is, a cock sucking slut. Finally she gets him to suck her cock again, but this time to gag on it whilst she makes him masturbate. She demands that he cum on her boots, but to add to his humiliation, makes him lick up all his mess as well.

When a Mistress lends her slave out to a friend, the slave's behaviour, good or bad, is a reflection of the lending Mistress. This slave has been a total failure in almost every department, forgetting almost all that he had learnt under Governess Elizabeth's expert wing. His pathetic excuse... that he doesn't want to serve any other Mistress, is just not good enough. Further training, further punishment and yet more anal stretching and fucking is in order for this very sorry failure of a slave.

Curvaceous Gas mask wearing slut gets her holes probed with an array of sex toys in her cell before getting slammed hard by her master. Punishment never looked so good!

Liv is a sexy little slut with an ass to die for. Everything about her is sexy as fuck, but her booty is insane. We begin with her standing and her arms above her head. The Pope enters and starts manhandling her, and she is completely turned on by his sadistic touch. She hasn't shot with him in a few years and has been counting the days until she was reunited with her master. The torment begins and she embraces every strike she receives. Her nipples are clamped and then tormented before her legs are pulled away and she is now suffering in a suspension. Her pussy is fucked and she screams through her first of many orgasms. Next she is hoisted into the air in an inverted suspension that has all of her weight hanging from her hips. Her ass is accentuated by design with this intense suspension that makes her curves shine. Her ass is the main target of The Pope as he rains down a full blown assault on her perfect ass. Her screams change to a tone that he knows all to well, which means it's time to switch to orgasm so he doesn't break his toy. In the final scene she is on her side with one leg tied to a column and her hands over her head. Her feet are subjected to a brutal bastinado session and then her mouth and pussy are fucked into submission. She is one of his toys/bitches, and she wouldn't have it any other way.

Dominic Pacifico is hooded and bound by leather and metal. His balls are tied tightly to a weighted bucket as he awaits the arrival of busty blonde bombshell Aiden Starr. Aiden wastes no time cutting this male dom down to size and stripping him of his ego. Dominic moans under the attention of this Goddess. He cries out as she smacks his chest and abs, and toys with his super sensitive nipples. Aiden laughs as Dominic strains in bondage, unable to escape the humiliation of being beat up and dominated by a woman. She clover-clamps his nipples, and decorates his foreskin with a crown of close-pins. Dominic yells as she drops weight after weight in the bucket connected to his balls as it pulls them further and further from his body. Next, she opens up his asshole with her hand. Working four fingers inside his greedy slut hole, Aiden laughs as Dominic pushes back like an eager slut, thirsty for more. He moans around his ball gag as she then pushes her long fat cock into his asshole and gives him a hard pounding. Aiden knows what a greedy whore this male dom is just from glancing at his asshole, so she prepares a fucking machine to pummel his ass. Dominic holds his legs open as the machine relentlessly drills into him. Aiden takes a seat on his face and has him lick her pussy while he gets fucked. Finally, Aiden commands Dominic to grab a box from the corner. She pronounces it his dinner table and directs him to make his own dinner. Dominic takes his cock in hand, jerking it as Aiden smacks his chest over and over again. Each smack brings Dominic closer and closer to cumming, and he blows his load all over his slave table. He eagerly laps it all up and eats the last remaining drops from his Mistress's hand.

Every day is new beginning and today is the one the begins Kristen's first time on Device Bondage. She has proven herself on Hogtied in recent months, but this is a different dance that she has to do. The devices are rigid and unforgiving and the sense of total helplessness is immediate. She is standing with her body weaved into the first device that sticks her ass out and makes her arch her back. Even her pretty face is in bondage with a leather head harness gag. The Pope towers over his prey as the torment begins with a vicious flogging to her flesh. He has his way with her until she has earned her first orgasms. The second scene opens up with Kristen atop a wooden tale and restrained in a steel scavenger's daughter. Her neck, wrists, and ankles are all secured in cold steel keeping her in a fixed sitting position. A blindfold is applied to take away her sight so that the game can begin. The Pope quietly moves around the dungeon and shocks her with an electric zapper. Some fear play thrown in for good measure before he assaults her pussy with a vibe for more orgasms. We can't finish the day without seeing her perky ass, so she is bound in a doggy position. Her flesh is striped with a cane before she is stuffed with a large metal hook. She endures more orgasms against her will until he has had his fill of this little slut.

The Mistress wants to use her slave as a sex toy. After using him as an ashtray, she makes him kiss and lick her arse, before putting his tongue to work on her pussy. She twists, pulls and claws at his balls and spits directly into his mouth in disgust at him. She's left frustrated by his poor performance, so she then decides to fuck him long and hard whilst he's bondage wrapped and getting a brutally hard face slapping.

Charlotte Sartre and Maya Sinstress have a new slave boy to amuse themselves with, and decide to play Wheel of Fortune to see what should become of him. Strapped into a swing, Tony Orlando has ass and mouth ready for abuse. The first two rounds at the wheel stop on face fucking, and Tony gets his fill with a mouth spreader and two huge dildos. The next spin, the wheel lands on castration, which the Mistresses decide to leave until later. Prophetically enough, the next spin ALSO lands on castration, and Tony is starting to get nervous about his fate. Luckily, "butt stuff" is the next category, and Maya and Charlotte enjoy themselves to the max. Hard pegging, both with strap-on and enormous dildos that are way too big for a harness, follow. Being that Tony's ass is stretched out as hell, double anal is also in order. Then it's time for the strange foreign objects category, and Maya has some patriotic red white and blue pompoms to stick in his ass and mouth.But Tony is still hungry for more action, and begs to be fisted. So who are the Dommes to argue? Finally, they decide he's such a fun slave, castration would just be a waste...